[Pokemon] Tracton
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[Pokemon] Tracton
Pokedex Number: #077
Type: Dragon/Steel
Base Stats:
Normal: 85 HP/ 110Atk / 70 Def / 50 SpA / 80 SpD / 100 Spe
Abilities: Speed Boost
I don't know how I feel about Tracton. On one hand, its typing walls quite a few powerful Pokemon. On the Other hand, its defenses suuuuck. It could try to sweep with its ability and attacks (that have great coverage), but its attack stat is a bit meh, and it might die and/or take significant damage before it gets off a Swords Dance. That being said, an SD set is probably your best shot.
Tracton
@ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Dragon Claw/Outrage
- Iron Head
- Drill Run/Fire Fang/Crunch/Knock Off (does knock off have Gen 6 effects?)/Explosion/Stealth Rock
Tracton's movepool is pretty insane upon closer look
fireblaster1357- Barewl
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Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
A 110 is 'meh'? Kind of curious what kind of attack stat you consider powerful then.
And as far as I know, Knock Off has the same function...
And as far as I know, Knock Off has the same function...
Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
110 base Atk is far from meh especially with 100 base Spe
Dustborn- Tofurang
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Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
Personally, I want Assault Vest to be released in the next patch, because that will be a GODSEND for many pokemon.
Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
Me calling 110 base Atk "Meh" is probably a result of playing OU on Showdown too much XD. Yes, Tracton hits hard in the Uranium Meta.
AV Tracton, is something that sound interesting, but it's a bit unclear as to why that would be better than SD, or another AV user.
AV Tracton, is something that sound interesting, but it's a bit unclear as to why that would be better than SD, or another AV user.
fireblaster1357- Barewl
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Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
Still don't see how 110 ATK/100 SPD with Speed Boost is MEH without SD. To me, having it as an all-out attacker build with AV will allow its meh defenses to actually be borderline.
Tracton
@ Assault Vest
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ice Fang
- Dragon Claw
- Iron Head
- Drill Run/Knock Off/Crunch
Tracton
@ Assault Vest
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ice Fang
- Dragon Claw
- Iron Head
- Drill Run/Knock Off/Crunch
Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
He thinks that 110 is meh because in the newer games, where power creep is actually becoming a pretty big thing, OU pokemon have base 130+ Atk with around 100 Spe. Which I mean after 700 pokemon it really cant be helped. Just salty lol
Dustborn- Tofurang
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Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
Tracton is actually insane. 110 Atk is good enough especially since you can run Adamant because of Speed Boost and you have access to Life Orb and Swords Dance.
85/70/80 is actually very passable if you take into account his typing, which has 9 resists and only 2 weaknesses.
As for EVs, as long as Scarf doesn't exist, there's no need to run max/max. Just enough to outpace whatever the fastest thing in the game currently is after a speed boost and/or enough speed to outpace a strong Ground/Fire before a speed boost. You can invest the rest into Hp, which also helps with tanking whatever.
I think Lum Berry is also a fine choice for Prankster Pokemon.
85/70/80 is actually very passable if you take into account his typing, which has 9 resists and only 2 weaknesses.
As for EVs, as long as Scarf doesn't exist, there's no need to run max/max. Just enough to outpace whatever the fastest thing in the game currently is after a speed boost and/or enough speed to outpace a strong Ground/Fire before a speed boost. You can invest the rest into Hp, which also helps with tanking whatever.
I think Lum Berry is also a fine choice for Prankster Pokemon.
masque- Barewl
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Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
masque wrote:Why are people so insistent on slapping AV onto everything <_< it's good on like 2 things
Why not make decent defenses even better on all-out-attackers?
Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
sovest555 wrote:Why not make decent defenses even better on all-out-attackers?
Thing is though the benefit from AV is insignificant compared to what you lose out on. 110 is good, but only because he has SD and Life Orb. Without them, Tracton will likely never sweep and only ever be able to clean a heavily weakened team.
Best way I can explain it is that it's like investing 252 Atk into Chansey. Trying to make his decent defenses better results in him having sub par offenses and defenses.
To me, AV should only be used on Pokemon that:
1) have high base stats to support it
2) don't require support moves to be good
And
3) can act as a pivot
E.g. Azumaril, Conkeldurr
But yeh, Tracton can do none of these things.
Hope I'm not coming off passive aggressive btw, it's not intentional
masque- Barewl
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Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
I completely oversaw its typing as means of defense, the typing takes care of most defensive issues.
The only thing that truly stops Tracton is Tubareel (base 105HP and 140Def.), and even that takes a considerable chunk from an Outrage/Dragon Claw.
Also, being part Steel type, it can survive a Hyper Voice from Sylveon, meaning that Outrage is in the discussion of usable.
Lum Berry would work, but it loses some firepower on the process, almost requiring it to run SD. AV could work, but again, it loses firepower; it would be a jack of all trades, master of none ('cept coverage) scenario.
The only thing that truly stops Tracton is Tubareel (base 105HP and 140Def.), and even that takes a considerable chunk from an Outrage/Dragon Claw.
Also, being part Steel type, it can survive a Hyper Voice from Sylveon, meaning that Outrage is in the discussion of usable.
Lum Berry would work, but it loses some firepower on the process, almost requiring it to run SD. AV could work, but again, it loses firepower; it would be a jack of all trades, master of none ('cept coverage) scenario.
fireblaster1357- Barewl
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Re: [Pokemon] Tracton
Eh I don't really think that's a problem considering all offensive tractons should have SD
Another set that could be used is some sort of offensive lead (does focus sash exist yet?) with taunt/stealth Rock/knock off/explosion.
It's a shame Tracton doesn't have access to torment though, it could function very similarly to tormentran
Another set that could be used is some sort of offensive lead (does focus sash exist yet?) with taunt/stealth Rock/knock off/explosion.
It's a shame Tracton doesn't have access to torment though, it could function very similarly to tormentran
masque- Barewl
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